How Much Would You Pay For This Horse?
Honest answers with regards to the economy appreciated. Any explanations to your answer are great as well.http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-…
Yearling Gelding – Foaled April ‘08
Gelded October ‘08
Sire is homozygous for black, dam was black (yearling showing signs of being brown/dark bay)
Currently stands 15.1hh
Registered AQHA Appendix, AQHA Incentive Fund Enrolled
Son of Indian Artbeat, Grandson of Indian Artifacts
Registered/Inspected American Warmblood Registry (not branded)
First Premium at weanling AWR inspections
Overall Score: 7.2
Type: 7.5
Frame: 7.2
Conformation: 7.2
Movement: 6.8
Judge’s Comments: “Masculine sport horse, well set on neck with correct length, leggy colt with correct proportions and lots of freedom of the elbow. Travels correctly, canters correctly from behind, trot has suspension.”
Calm, sane, walks well on lead and over poles, has been lunged very lightly and accepts a surcingle. Loves dogs, not afraid of farm animals, tractors, or cars. Loads and trailers easily. Ties and grooms well, picks up feet, not fussy about fly spray, blankets, or masks. Has not been clipped, working on bathing. Up to date on shots and wormer.
HOWEVER, he has a chipped hind cannon bone that while it is unsightly and will require surgery, is being treated and has never affected his soundness.
If you could please give the price (or range) you would pay if he did NOT have the injury, as well as a price because he DOES, that would be wonderful!!
((***Little note to everyone: No, he’s not for sale. No, I would never sell him without disclosing everything including the injury (and x-rays of it). This is all theoretical.))
November 1st, 2009 at 4:26 pm
It is a terrible photo, and is certainly not doing this yearling any favors. Even if he photographs terribly just while standing and eating, you could at least pull his mane, put him on some even footing, and get a couple side shots. No horse looks particularly great eating in the field with long mane, photographer’s shadow, and big green shed in bg.
Since he does have the injury, I would pay nothing for him. He seems nice enough, but right now, in this economy, it’s more worth it to put my money in a horse that is older and trained. I don’t have the time or money to put into a young, unbroken yearling. If I’m going to buy a horse, I don’t want to wait another 4 years before I can start seriously riding it, as I would never break earlier than 3, and wouldn’t start seriously jumping until late 4 or 5. Plus, with this economy, I can get a relatively trained horse for the same amount of money as him. Even if the economy were great, and he wasn’t injured, I wouldn’t pay anything over 1000 for him.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:47 pm
thats a really bad picture. If it were just on the picture Id pay 500 (without condition)
With condition you’d be lucky if you gave him away.
I don’t care what the judge said, he doesnt look pretty in the picture and that’s what your selling him from. I don’t think people will even believe the “judges comments”. I didn’t
November 1st, 2009 at 10:29 pm
the surgery would cost over 1000 dollars so i wouldnt pay any thing for him, and he would take months if not years of lay up before he might be able to be ridden again. You would be losing a lot of money
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:20 am
maybe 500
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 am
i think he would be worth $20 if u r Lucky he looks awful and i don’t care what the judges say hes not worth much and 2 think the surgery costs heps my family owens over 95 race horses and our best 1 is ohoka Arizona and he snapped his pastern 3 times but he went 2 a guy down south and he did his surgery 4 $850 per 1 compered 2 $1000
i think u should just keep your options open
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:54 am
Hey ok so the photo isnt the greatest, but then as youve said you arent selling him, you want advice, personally I would pay little or nothing for him, they are to expensive to keep purely as a pet and in my opinion, yes he may be fine but then again it may cause problems down the line, and if I was buying a riding horse I would DEF want him to be sound, I know you say he IS sound but I mean that I would want to be sure he is sound, you cant tell as a yearling wether he will continue to remain sound, its when he starts work it will possibly become a problem x
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Personally, I would run from these people.
For one thing, no one in their right mind would post a photo with an obvious injury if they were serious about selling.
Two, they are making YOU name a price because they don’t know what he is worth because they are idiots and they are afraid of quoting a price that’s too high and scare people away.
Three, they are making way too many excuses. If he photographs better in the winter, they should have posted a winter picture of him. They obviously took the time to bathe him and clean him up a little because he does look nice in the photo, and it would have been just as easy and more effective for them to stand him randomly in a field with a halter and snap a photo then.
And four, by saying they paid quite some money for him, they are trying to manipulate you into thinking hes a heck of a bargain even though he’s lame. The economy is no excuse.
Seriously, these sellers are idiots. Buying an injured horse is never the best thing for you. There are plenty of sound horses out there that needs homes that are ready for you right now. These owners have a responsibility to this gelding to make him sound FIRST and not try to pawn him off on someone else.
Granted, he’s adorable and probably is as calm and sane as these people claim….but there are hundreds of horses out there just like that and you won’t have to worry about lameness right off the bat.
Seriously…run
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:35 pm
The picture is terrible and makes him look terrible…
If the bone wasn’t fixed before hand and was sold as is, I wouldn’t pay anything for him… I don’t even think I’d take him if he were free…
A yearling in the economy where I live isn’t going for much anyway since you have to feed them for another year then spend the time to break them and get them to a point they are trustworthy under saddle…
I might give a hundred dollars for him if the bone were fixed and he was garenteed riding sound as a two year old…
You have to sell the horse as it is, not on what it could be…
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:00 pm
guess as a buyer I’d want more as to why the cannon bone chipped, defect or injured playing around. Picture isn’t greatest angle, can’t see is feet very well, nor is looking at a big warmblood coach horse type head, rather plain to not so pretty headed. seems to have nice lenght of leg, angle is bad to tell on hooves or type of bone of the legs, can’t tell about his ribs or his croup because the picture angle has him with a very sad looking back end where I might only cough up a few hundred less then a Thousand bucks out of pitty if his back end in person looked as the picture has it. bases that picture, with out an injury, and based first Keuring rating, I might cough up 5 grand, if as is and as Apendix Quarter horses are a dime a dozen. maybe 2 grand. As he stands how as yearling with bad leg, as untill he’s had his surgery, and is old enough to saddle train, you might find out, he’s sound as long as you down ride him. wouldn’t want to pay to much for a pasture pet. so me, I Wouldn’t pay more then 2 grand. and I’m used to 20 thousand dollar Westfalen to be Yearlings, since they haven’t done final Keuring yet.. yours is a stock horse mixed with well something you didn’t list here, but I’ll assume a Thoroughbred or warmblood mare that has gone through a final Keuring, otherwise you bred with a grade type horse , you can pick up a excellent regular registry modern type quarter horse for 5 grand trained. maybe 10 or 15 grand if you get a really good looking rare colored one with a fabulous bloodline, and on up depending on how good and how proven they are. if you want to get into the warmblood game, better find something other then Apendix Quarterhorses to breed with. they’re as passe in the world as Thoroughbreds are to the 5 star rings…you see a few, but wonder why anyone persists.
maybe your horse’s next Keuring will be more substantial for you to getstimate price for your horse, once the surgery is done of course it will make a great difference in price. hope his surgery goes well and he recovers beautifully!
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:08 am
hmmm well…. considering its not the greatest picture and considering he isn’t full grown i will take your word for what you say about the judges opinion. as for the chipped tendon without that being fixed you are going to have an extremly hard time selling him. I would give him away if you can’t offord to fix him. However, if you can offord it I would get his leg fixed, and a vet’s bill of approval to sell him that he is fine healthy horse. I would find a reasonably priced proffesional trainer and have them put 30-60 days riding on him (as soon as he is old enough) I would start with ground manners now they are so important (it sounds like you already have which is great!) I would also not word your add like that. You can still give that information to buyers but I wouldn’t list it quite like that. As for taking new pictures…
- Give him a bath and clip him and spray him with shoshene (so his coat looks great ect.)
- have somone hold him on a nice show halter or a very clean looking nylon one. (make sure there are no people in the picture.)
- Take the picture in a very nice area example: front yard, in front of a flower bush ect.
DO NOT
- Take the picture of him eating hay
- with other horses or animals around (you are showing the horse off not the dog or cat or some little kid)
- Take the picture in a dry lot or pasture (poop is gross) your main focus is on the quality of the horse.
DO
- Take 4 pictures to of the front two of the sides
Listing the add
- Research !!
reasearch dreamhorse in your local area or your paper and find out how much babies like this are going for. A trainer could definatly boost your price
- If you feel like your pinching pennies look at this as an investment about 6-9 months from now you will be happy for how much time you put into all this.
List your add like this:
Handsome duel registed AQHA yearling!
(name of horse here) is a wonderful little guy he loves to be brushed and be given baths. He clips well and loads in the trailer. He also does well with the farrier. He is also shedualed next spring to be trained with (your trainer’s name here) (horses name here) is a very mellow guy he loves other farm animals dogs, cats, sheep, chickens, ect. he does great around farming equipment. Lunges well on lunge line.
He has had an injury do to an attempt to mess around with some farm equipment. He has had surgery on it and the vet has givin him a clean bill of health – he is perfectly sound and it has not altered his conformation. This is a wonderful little guy with loads of potential! We would love for you to come out and meet him!
Assuming that all the above will be true when it comes time for you to sell him.
My favorite places to advertise:
Dreamhorse.com
local classifieds
horsetopia.com
horsefinders.com
eqinenow.com
equine.com
there are lots! just google it.
I wish you the very best of luck!
here are some links to pictures that are good examples of how you should take them….http://www.whitacreqhpaints.com/updates/…http://www.freewebs.com/circlesranch/joe…
as for your pricing…
as is right now
$0 – $100
with a little time and training and the surgery
$300-$700
time surgery and training
$600-$2000 regardless of the horse economy a good horse is a good horse and all horses have potential